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Post by LeRemy on Jun 13, 2016 21:03:07 GMT
How does green soap (the natural soap agent) work for washing dreads?
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Post by acidburn on Jun 14, 2016 2:45:19 GMT
Clay, like dirt, dust, cornstarch, dry shampoo and other such things washes out clean, unlike waxes, chemicals and fragrances so cornstarch is safe for dreading hair? My aunt told me I should try some to absorb my hairs oils and make it more prone to knot. I just thought it would leave a residue so I skipped it.
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Post by lipstic on Jun 15, 2016 3:01:10 GMT
yes just make sure you give an extra good wash after cornstarch. It's often used in dry shampoo treatments. (so not meant for washing for just for absorbing oil), however I don't know how I would feel about using it to help dreads lock up... I don't like the idea of it not being washed away right after it's done it's job.
As for Green Soap, I have never used it, but from what I can tell yes it would be safe to use on your dreads. Apparently it's a potassium soap made by saponification of vegetable oils, excluding coconut oil and palm kernel oil, without the removal of glycerin; it is the chief ingredient of green soap tincture.
So not much different from Dr. Bonner's, Kiss My Face, etc If you do get a chance to try it out let us know and can you let me know the ingredients from the bottle?
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Post by acidburn on Jun 15, 2016 3:13:01 GMT
yes just make sure you give an extra good wash after cornstarch. It's often used in dry shampoo treatments. (so not meant for washing for just for absorbing oil), however I don't know how I would feel about using it to help dreads lock up... I don't like the idea of it not being washed away right after it's done it's job. As for Green Soap, I have never used it, but from what I can tell yes it would be safe to use on your dreads. Apparently it's a potassium soap made by saponification of vegetable oils, excluding coconut oil and palm kernel oil, without the removal of glycerin; it is the chief ingredient of green soap tincture. So not much different from Dr. Bonner's, Kiss My Face, etc If you do get a chance to try it out let us know and can you let me know the ingredients from the bottle? my hair is super greasy even though wash every 2days that just makes it super silky then in-between the 2days of not washing it gets greasy.. 9 months in and only got 1 actual neglect locks and sections are finally starting.. cornstarch might help my oilyness.
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Post by lipstic on Jun 17, 2016 3:04:27 GMT
Actually washing it may be the issue, that is to say you are washing your hair way too much (for your scalp). When I was washing my hair on a daily basis it was super oily (before dreads); the problem is your scalp (and mine) naturally produces oils to keep your skin hydrated and the more you wash away those natural oils the harder your scalp will work to produce more oils. It's a vicious circle really, you wash to clean away the oils and your body produces more and more oil to combat the assault (how your body views it) from the soap.
In order to break this cycle you actually have to let your hair get a bit greasy (so your scalp will relax and lay down arms), start slow, if you are washing every 2 days, wash every 3 days instead and every other wash instead of using soap use baking soda or just plain water.
I do notice that the more I use soap/ shampoo the more I have to wash! The worst was when I tried using Dawn, it took me almost a year to get my scalp back to normal. However it did slightly help my dreads lock up, but I would never do it again because the negatives do not outweigh the positives.
Of course diet should also be considered.
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Post by rkymtnjoy on Jul 3, 2016 4:41:18 GMT
danzia, I have a question about Vital Goods. I've tried their shampoo before, and liked it except for the watery consistency. How do you work with it? I've thought of using an applicator bottle to squirt it on. Do you have a good solution?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 4:47:26 GMT
... And just so it's clear anything Saponified means they have combined an acid (lye or similar) and the oil. If you are looking to steer clear of all soaps (I don't recommend) then baking soda water and vinegar are your best bet. You could also use bentonite or similar clays. I never properly responded here. I think I said elsewhere, thatsoap left residue...maybe thatpost should be removed, Olly or Dreadlocktruth? Idk, well i guess there was a lesson in there. Just dont want to confuse others but... anyway, so just cuz...ok well i wanted something liquid fortraveling....so i am testing out Dollylocks rosemary pepperment shampoo. Yeaaaahhhh, it IS drying! :/ i mean, idk if it is bad but it feels...icky? Gah, feel so bad. HOWEVER! I think i will justhave to get like a spraybottle and make an oil spray mixed with water. The plain oil is a bit greasy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 4:50:33 GMT
Ugh! This won't let me do..! anyway, bit greasy but seems to have calmed down a bit. Maybe I won't be using the shampoo as much, which saves money, or maybe I will figure out a balance. Sometimes it just takes hair some time to adjust. Oh yes, another perk is the dispensing bottle. rkymtnjoy not sure what vital goods is like, but the push down dispenser is really nice for portioning out how much you want to use every time.
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Post by danzia on Jul 3, 2016 5:11:12 GMT
danzia, I have a question about Vital Goods. I've tried their shampoo before, and liked it except for the watery consistency. How do you work with it? I've thought of using an applicator bottle to squirt it on. Do you have a good solution? I actually dilute mine by 50% and then squeeze directly on to my scalp from the bottle.
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Post by rkymtnjoy on Jul 3, 2016 5:14:13 GMT
Thanks for the tip! I imagine diluting prevents you from using too much even when pouring on right from the bottle.
I need to order more. I'm having residue issues with brand I switched to.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 16:48:17 GMT
Actually washing it may be the issue, that is to say you are washing your hair way too much (for your scalp). When I was washing my hair on a daily basis it was super oily (before dreads); the problem is your scalp (and mine) naturally produces oils to keep your skin hydrated and the more you wash away those natural oils the harder your scalp will work to produce more oils. It's a vicious circle really, you wash to clean away the oils and your body produces more and more oil to combat the assault (how your body views it) from the soap. In order to break this cycle you actually have to let your hair get a bit greasy (so your scalp will relax and lay down arms), start slow, if you are washing every 2 days, wash every 3 days instead and every other wash instead of using soap use baking soda or just plain water. I do notice that the more I use soap/ shampoo the more I have to wash! The worst was when I tried using Dawn, it took me almost a year to get my scalp back to normal. However it did slightly help my dreads lock up, but I would never do it again because the negatives do not outweigh the positives. Of course diet should also be considered. I have the opposite issues that acidburn is having. My hair used to get really oily within a day -- when I was washing it everyday. Before starting dreads I used bicarb and acv for a long time, and I think it really helped lessen the oil production as I don't think it strips quite as much as shampoo, and it also helped to slowly stretch out the time before washing again. But now my scalp is dry and itchy almost all the time, only feeling good the actual day I wash, then by the next day it starts, increasing until I wash again. It's annoying, but not a deal breaker for me, and often just when I think it's getting better it flares up. I never had any issues with dandruff before, and am pretty sure that's not what this is, but rather dryness from washing with drying shampoos. I have been washing every three days, and the last time I just used bicarb and diluted ACV. I'm beginning the process of stretching time between washings, and see if that helps. I also think that my skin is just generally getting drier as I get older. The winter is harsh for me. What sucks a bit is that it seemed like the shampoo I was using (TJs Tea Tree) left my knots tighter than the bicarb does. Also, when using shampoo I was having to separate more, and my hair was getting that webbiness all over the scalp. Maybe that doesn't happen as well with the bicarb as it's not as drying, though it does fine at leaving me clean. I trust that in time this will all even out, but I seem to be in that trial-and-error stage which isn't particularly fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 19:56:26 GMT
I trust that in time this will all even out, but I seem to be in that trial-and-error stage which isn't particularly fun. haha! yeah, I totally agree! Can I ask what shampoo you use now (other than the bicarb/ACV)?? btw, I still have my Seanick Lush bar...and I love the smell! And it seems to work pretty well. I just wanted to try a liquid shampoo (for the reasons above) Dishsoap honestly seemed the best for my hair though, hehe...but not for my hands.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 20:04:59 GMT
I started using Trader Joe's Tea Tree Peppermint soon after I backcombed. It's a good, residue free shampoo. I paid more for it because I don't live near a Trader Joes and had to buy online. Another one I picked up because I found it super cheap on sale and heard good things about it is Avalon Organics Lemon clarifying, but there's not much 'organic' about it besides being sls/paraben free. I might try it later.
I really like the bicarb wash, it works for me, but I do wonder about the potential for hair damage after long term use. Quite a few people warn about that. It's just so easy.
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Post by lipstic on Jul 3, 2016 20:14:05 GMT
... And just so it's clear anything Saponified means they have combined an acid (lye or similar) and the oil. If you are looking to steer clear of all soaps (I don't recommend) then baking soda water and vinegar are your best bet. You could also use bentonite or similar clays. I never properly responded here. I think I said elsewhere, thatsoap left residue...maybe thatpost should be removed, Olly or Dreadlocktruth ? Idk, well i guess there was a lesson in there. Just dont want to confuse others but... anyway, so just cuz...ok well i wanted something liquid fortraveling....so i am testing out Dollylocks rosemary pepperment shampoo. Yeaaaahhhh, it IS drying! :/ i mean, idk if it is bad but it feels...icky? Gah, feel so bad. HOWEVER! I think i will justhave to get like a spraybottle and make an oil spray mixed with water. The plain oil is a bit greasy Are you asking them to remove my post? As I have mentioned in the past if the soap is made properly it should not leave residue. However, most things on the market that resemble soap are actually in fact beauty bars or chemicals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 21:05:45 GMT
I never properly responded here. I think I said elsewhere, thatsoap left residue...maybe thatpost should be removed, Olly or Dreadlocktruth ? Idk, well i guess there was a lesson in there. Just dont want to confuse others but... anyway, so just cuz...ok well i wanted something liquid fortraveling....so i am testing out Dollylocks rosemary pepperment shampoo. Yeaaaahhhh, it IS drying! :/ i mean, idk if it is bad but it feels...icky? Gah, feel so bad. HOWEVER! I think i will justhave to get like a spraybottle and make an oil spray mixed with water. The plain oil is a bit greasy Are you asking them to remove my post? As I have mentioned in the past if the soap is made properly it should not leave residue. However, most things on the market that resemble soap are actually in fact beauty bars or chemicals. oh gah no! thats why i said maybe leave it for learning purposes. Also, i guess most people will probably never come across this soap as it is kinda local. idk! ohhh! well, it could be that, or it could have been my tight dreads too! But what i had combed out was definitely reeking of the soap smell! hehe kinda funny, but uhhh seems like it should have been rinsing out. It's still a good body bar! and thanks, @kevin. I was more just curious. Yeah, Trader Joes, i heard it was much more pricey on Amazon...i don't think i have a local store here either! ohh, and idk about bicarb being harmful longterm...I've read mostly positive reviews on this site.
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