help :S

[acidburn]

we have to combine alot the person who sectioned it made them 1cm sq and she wanted 1" sq she stayed off with 100 were down to 76 i think they combine fast when i allow them to i just dont allow any one to join it must be a friendly neighbor no long distance relatives LOL

[kondzio]

quite huge difference in sectioning...then instead of 100 she probably would have got something around 40-50

is she happy with them now or You still trying to combine more?

on the other hand I had too big sections having my first set done and got only 26 dreads, but they were so thick then (picture below):

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now I'm happier having 46 pieces on my head

[acidburn]

I think shes at terms with it.. She got dreads to stop brushing, she use to wake up brush a mess, go out come in brush again etc. So her brushing it out is a nono she contemplated shaving them off but she has not done so yet.

[kondzio]

it must be tiring thing indeed, hope both of You will get satisfying results with Your sets eventually

[Dreadlocktruth]

Mar 27, 2016 14:17:31 GMT acidburn said:

u know what i dont care what people say. my wife left those "harmfull rubber bands" in for 1 month and all her dreads stayed i followed the DT rule no wax or rubber bands and removed 3 days after lost almost all my dreads.

A lot to deal with here.
Just as a preface, this is my second set and my first set (which I had for four years) was started with rubber bands and wax.

When people talk about rubber bands being harmful, you have to bare in mind that we're talking about down the line. Sure, they appear to give immediate results in keeping dreads in and so does wax, but it's the harm they cause down the road that is the problem. Rubber bands can cause weak spots and you'll wind up with a dread that flops over at that point as time wears it down and I had more than a few simply break off. And also bare in mind that we're not completely against rubber bands - I found it useful to put them in over the tips when showering, for example, it's keeping them in that's the problem.

You talk about how you "lost your dreads" very quickly, but you never had dreads. Dreads come with time and all those products do is give the illusion of having them sooner, in a way that is more-often-than-not harmful in the future.

Sorry for the lengthy reply, but it's more for the people who might read this thread and decide "fuck it, I'm going to use rubber bands". Your hair is indeed your hair - if you want to trust the immediate results over the advice of people (here and elsewhere in the dread community) who know what they're talking about, be my guest.

[acidburn]

I dont mind the lengthy reply at all, its helpful to me and others. And good way to put it i did'nt "loose my dreads" thats a good thought i should embed in my mind! after all only time knows whats best.

[kondzio]

Mar 27, 2016 14:46:45 GMT Dreadlocktruth said:

Mar 27, 2016 14:17:31 GMT acidburn said:

u know what i dont care what people say. my wife left those "harmfull rubber bands" in for 1 month and all her dreads stayed i followed the DT rule no wax or rubber bands and removed 3 days after lost almost all my dreads.

A lot to deal with here.
Just as a preface, this is my second set and my first set (which I had for four years) was started with rubber bands and wax.

When people talk about rubber bands being harmful, you have to bare in mind that we're talking about down the line. Sure, they appear to give immediate results in keeping dreads in and so does wax, but it's the harm they cause down the road that is the problem. Rubber bands can cause weak spots and you'll wind up with a dread that flops over at that point as time wears it down and I had more than a few simply break off. And also bare in mind that we're not completely against rubber bands - I found it useful to put them in over the tips when showering, for example, it's keeping them in that's the problem.

You talk about how you "lost your dreads" very quickly, but you never had dreads. Dreads come with time and all those products do is give the illusion of having them sooner, in a way that is more-often-than-not harmful in the future.

Sorry for the lengthy reply, but it's more for the people who might read this thread and decide "fuck it, I'm going to use rubber bands". Your hair is indeed your hair - if you want to trust the immediate results over the advice of people (here and elsewhere in the dread community) who know what they're talking about, be my guest.

And here I can only agree. I didn't use rubber bands or wax. On the other hand I was lazy person too, choosing crochet hook which can be damaging to hair when it's overused as well (hope I don't use it too often though )

[acidburn]

Theoretically as long as you don't exert more then 62 grams per strand of hair i don't see damage happening but then again thats only in theory. Because 1 strand of hair can hold 63 grams before snapping there fore 62 grams is threshold before 1 more gram snaps the hair. But i don't think crochet 1 hair at a time so it multiplies. But then again hair health (ph) plays a factor u want hair to be 4.5-5 boardering acidic when it becomes alkaline it loses moisture and becomes weaker.

[kondzio]

Well, my shampoo helps keeping proper pH of skin, so I hope it's not bad overall

[danzia]

As someone who is still dealing with ends of dreads breaking off from going to a salon when I didn't know any better, I encourage anyone to use their initial method and then do absolutely nothing - no rubber bands, no root flipping, no crocheting unless minimal and you know what you're doing, no root rubbing, no twisting, no nothing.

Can't tell you how many have broken off and how completely upsetting it is. My dreads are now 3/4 natural growth and I can't wait to cut off the salon parts.

Before this, my hair was incredibly healthy. A one time experience at a salon caused so much damage it was irreversible.

I completely regret not starting my dreads sooner so I could go natural. But I work in a corporate environment and chose more insta dreads so I wouldn't get fired. Never again.

[acidburn]

If they did fire you for your hair you know that's discrimination. Only in healthcare food etc would it have to be covered.

[danzia]

They can when there is a dress code and I work in healthcare. And that is besides the point, the point is to take good care of your hair now because it will cause damage later!

[kondzio]

I hope there won't be any problems in finance... I worked in transfer agency and noone didn't care about my hair

[gingerdreadman]

Yeah as far as jobs. When you work in my state or a lot of places in the USA it is "at will employment." That means if my boss comes in and thinks my head or face is ugly and she is tired of looking at it she can fire me. She cant say that is why or name something that could be viewed as discrimination. Your employment is literally at will. But they can fire you for such things but just not list that as why. Now that being said my company has policies in place that actually provide more rights. As far as a chain of action of write up's and what not before you can be dismissed. Unless you break one of the "deadly sins" which is grounds for immediate dismissal.

[danzia]

They don't care now, it's more going through the messy stage that wouldn't be tolerated. We have a strict dress code about maintaining a tidy appearance. No hats or think headbands allowed. Yours are more mature so you should be fine. We talk a lot about dreads and jobs. It's all about how you present in the interview. If you're confident, well-prepared, and have a great set of skill, hopefully no one will judge you by your hair. And if they do, would you want to work for that type of employer?